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 3yrsout (original poster member #50552) posted at 4:44 PM on Wednesday, September 11th, 2024

This is a random thought exercise.

Artificial Intelligence exists, and I keep seeing this weird FB post about getting an AI boyfriend. I assume from the post that this is all a "relationship" via texts.

Ever watched the movie "Her"?

Is an AI partner cheating?

I’m not contemplating it, just random thought. I feel like it would be!

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Groot1988 ( member #84337) posted at 4:55 PM on Wednesday, September 11th, 2024

In my opinion , absolutely.
I categorize that with porn, needs are being met elsewhere.

Just me though.

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Ripped62 ( member #60667) posted at 5:00 PM on Wednesday, September 11th, 2024

Yes, per my personal definition of "cheating."

If it was an agreed on human + human + machine interaction that is different.

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Chaos ( member #61031) posted at 11:04 PM on Thursday, September 12th, 2024

Is an AI partner cheating?

There is an old adage "If you have to ask, you already know"

But to specifically answer your question - yes. Yes it is.

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This0is0Fine ( member #72277) posted at 11:16 PM on Thursday, September 12th, 2024

My definition of cheating is a romantic or sexual *interaction* that you hide from your partner.

So this turns into more a broader question to the ability of a machine to interact. An LLM has basically unlimited capacity to generate new answers (it isn't scripted by the programmer) but will generally provide the same output reliably for the same input (given a fixed training set).

As neat and powerful as machine learning and LLMs are, I think they are still basically a big fancy text game. So I would put it under the same category as video game porn or choose your own adventure erotica.

Not cheating, but maybe still a totally reasonable limitation or boundary to set/expect of your SO to not engage in.

Love is not a measure of capacity for pain you are willing to endure for your partner.

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Tanner ( Guide #72235) posted at 11:37 PM on Thursday, September 12th, 2024

I believe it is cheating, I have heard that Only Fans models are getting passed over for AI. I don't know how true it is because I have never been to OF. I do know we have a friend / neighbor that was very successful on OF during and right after Covid, but she is now a waitress at Hooters so her "business" faded out.

An AI girlfriend reminds me of the movie Weird Science smile

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SacredSoul33 ( member #83038) posted at 11:39 PM on Thursday, September 12th, 2024

At first, I thought no, it's not cheating because there's not a human on the other end. I've also never categorized porn as cheating, though I 100% get why many people do.

But then I looked up the definition of infidelity: the act or fact of having a romantic or sexual relationship with someone other than one's husband, wife, or partner

AI would sure feel and sound like a "someone", wouldn't it? Plus, having a relationship with a bot is super, super creepy and terrible for one's mental health, I'm sure.

Here's an add-on question for you: Say that you and your partner have very different sex drives, and you're the one with the lower drive. Would you be alright with allowing your partner to have a sex robot to get their needs met as long as it wasn't taking anything away from you? I kind of think it would be like a fancy sex toy.

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 3yrsout (original poster member #50552) posted at 1:24 AM on Friday, September 13th, 2024

Sacred soul, yes that was kind of my take on it. Like a sex robot.

It’s an interesting proposition. What if it allows the person to fulfill their "romance" need and lets them stay in the marriage with an emotionally stunted partner, but that keeps their family together?

Maybe some needs are unreasonable to meet, like the sex robot question. Like what if my WH wants sex on the daily, and I don’t? Having a sex robot would enable them to stay married…..

Interesting thought.

What if one partner is soul sucking in the need for emotional validation? And the AI allows them to stay married when they could not otherwise?

[This message edited by 3yrsout at 1:25 AM, Friday, September 13th]

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standinghere ( member #34689) posted at 8:31 AM on Friday, September 13th, 2024

it would depend upon how you define cheating/infidelity.

If it takes time and emotional energy away from the relationship that you are supposed to be devoting your time and energy toward, and it is a secret, I would say it is harmful to the primary relationship.

You can have friends, coworkers, jobs, all of which require time and energy. But they should not be destructive to your primary relationship.

I would define any relationship, of any type, that is harmful to your primary relationship, as infidelity.

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