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The Book Club :
Living and Loving After Betrayal by Steven Stosny

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 limitedenergy (original poster member #59462) posted at 9:21 PM on Tuesday, September 19th, 2017

This is a good book for anyone working on the 180. Not too long, easy to read, makes sense. Good advice for healing yourself.

The beginning was interesting. The first few chapters talk about how humans are programmed to feel pain after betrayal. I think the example given is that thousands of years ago, if you were betrayed and kicked out of your tribe, you would basically die. Which explains why you feel like you're going to die when you JFO.

I would recommend this book to those who are either R or D. There are sections for both.

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notperfect5 ( member #43330) posted at 9:29 PM on Tuesday, September 19th, 2017

I agree. It was a very good book to focus on what you are doing to improve your outlook and your value.

I listened to it about 3 times and thought it helped me to settle in my mind the feelings I was going through.

Excellent book whether you try to R but, I would think, especially if you D.

Me: 55 BH Her: 52 WW - Edith12
DDay 8/13 EA, fake R
Turned PA on 4/27/14 and fake R
PA during MC and my IC and her IC through 12/14
Polygraph on 4/30/15, TT 5/5/15.. TT on 10/4/15, 2nd Poly and TT 11/17/15
DD's 23, 21, 18, 15 DS

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steadychevy ( member #42608) posted at 4:09 AM on Wednesday, September 20th, 2017

I think I have this book which I would have bought with a multitude of others. I know I haven't read it but now I will. If I can't find it I'll buy another copy. Thanks.

BH(me)72(now); XWW 64; M 42 yrsDDay1-01/09/13;DDay2-26/10/13;DDay3-19/12/13;DDay4-21/01/14LTA-09/02-06/06? OM - COW 4 years; "dates" w/3 lovers post engagement;ONS w/stranger post commitment, lies, lies, liesSeparated 23/09/2017; D 16/03/2020

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hurthumiliated3 ( member #56189) posted at 10:41 PM on Saturday, September 23rd, 2017

I also really enjoyed this book. I found it very helpful, even though I only did a handful of the written exercises.

Me- BW, mid 30s
Him(Fake Husband)- late 30s, 6 week PA with COW
3 kids, 15 years married
Dday Oct 2016

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Emotionalhell ( member #39902) posted at 2:45 PM on Friday, October 20th, 2017

never heard of this book. Is it a short book?

Me BS x2. 50ish Divorced WH #1. IHS with wayward #2 Dday #1 Oct. 2014Dday # 2 August 2018. Dday #3 December 17th.

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Icewraithonyx ( member #48892) posted at 1:53 AM on Monday, November 6th, 2017

I got this on Audible. I actually liked it. I think it was pretty universal in that it works for infidelity, abuse, and many other betrayals. I'd recommend to people in the early days.

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gtflng ( member #63002) posted at 1:43 AM on Friday, June 8th, 2018

I think this book is so good. The focus is on moving from a victim identity to a healing identity, and the importance of the BS focusing. on themselves and their values.

I’m four months out and am finding the timing is good for me. I think in the initial shock days it wouldn’t have helped, and if you’re farther along in reconciliation then it probably wouldn’t be useful. But for those in limbo or struggling towards acceptance or anyone who is focusing more on their spouse than themselves would get something out of this.

He has a two-part webinar on YouTube with the same name - if you have an hour or so, I’d highly recommend watching it.

[This message edited by gtflng at 7:45 PM, June 7th (Thursday)]

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