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 WhatsRight (original poster member #35417) posted at 8:20 PM on Tuesday, January 23rd, 2024

I am due to take my baby puppy Bella to the vet to get her spayed tomorrow. I’m having a really tough time with this, because my Maggie began her seizures shortly after her spaying at the same vet hospital. I notified them about this at the time, and they said they had never had that feedback or that concern in all of their years, which are many. So I just dismissed it and thought she was probably having nightmares. But then…

I think the chances are quite slim that any fault for Maggie’s condition lies with the veterinarians who spayed her. But I find myself just not wanting to take her.

Have any of you all had issues after having your dog spayed/neutered? Do you think I’m just being overly sensitive about this? This vet is also a part of a foundation. They are known all over our area, and I have never heard a complaint.

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Shehawk ( member #68741) posted at 8:26 PM on Tuesday, January 23rd, 2024

So sorry for what you went through.
I hope you get the answers or reassurance you need.
I have learned is to trust my intuition over the past few years.

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zebra25 ( member #29431) posted at 8:32 PM on Tuesday, January 23rd, 2024

I understand your feelings. It must be incredibly difficult to hand your baby over for a procedure (even a routine one) so soon after losing your beloved Maggie. I think you need to expect that you are going to feel worried and anxious.

I have never had a problem or know anybody that has.

Prayers for Bella to have an easy, uneventful procedure.

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tushnurse ( member #21101) posted at 12:03 AM on Wednesday, January 24th, 2024

If you are having doubts cancel. Period.
Find another vet one that will listen to you and explain the science to seizures in dogs and why it is not related to surgery anesthesia or care. If they can't answer that question then find another vet.
I can say that seizures in dogs is usually genetic and specific breeds are definitely more prone to it than others. Most dogs don't seize until they reach maturity, having a hysterectomy and all female dog hormones taken away all at once (which is what happens with a spay) will chemically make your dog mature in a matter of hours.
Maybe ask if there is any testing they can do before surgery to test if the puppy is prone to seizure and if there are meds they can give to prevent this.

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zebra25 ( member #29431) posted at 3:30 PM on Wednesday, January 24th, 2024

WR, did you decide to keep Bella's appointment?

Thinking of you and hope all goes well if you decided to take her.

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 WhatsRight (original poster member #35417) posted at 2:13 AM on Friday, January 26th, 2024

When Maggie begin to have what I thought were nightmares at night, but I was concerned about seizures, I did call the vet hospital back and told them, and asked if the spay could have anything to do with the seizures. They were very kind. The lady told me that they had never experienced in all of their years, not even one time that anyone had complained about that. And I wasn’t really complaining. I just wondered if maybe something happened in the procedure that caused temporary stop of blood flow or something. I’m not medically educated so I just didn’t know. But they were very helpful.

I did take Bella yesterday. I picked her up at 5 o’clock yesterday evening and she was so pitiful. She is only 9 pounds, and because she couldn’t eat all day yesterday she looked so skinny to me. This particular veterinary hospital is part of a foundation, and thus charge less for the procedure. That’s why I initially went there with Maggie, and also why I went with Bella. They are well known throughout the county and abroad for their reasonable prices and skilled surgeons.

So many people go there that they dedicate three full days a week of nothing but spay and neutering from eight in the morning to five in the evening. You drive around the building and they come and get the dog from your car. They started this during Covid and I imagine it just worked so efficiently that they kept it After people stopped being so careful.

Anyway, when they came out to the car and saw who I was, she said, "Wait and I’ll go check and see who’s holding Bella now. She has been our favorite patient all day long!". She was really pitiful when they brought her out but she was so excited to see me. My husband has not been without her for more than an hour at a time since we got her nine months ago. When she saw him she ran up to him in his bed and just curled up in the back of his knees and didn’t move. She wouldn’t even eat.

She did start eating this morning a little bit. They gave me pain medicine to give her for the first four days. So after I gave her the medicine this morning, she slept most of the day away again. Tonight she has become a little bit feisty which is encouraging, but a little scary. Of course they gave us the cone of shame for her to wear, but it is so huge that she can hardly walk in it. They texted this morning to ask how she was doing, and I chatted with them a little bit. I did admit that we were not going to use the cone of shame because when she puts her head down it is so huge cocks her chin way back to where she can’t even relax. So I investigated and found that a pet store in our town sells a little collar that is inflatable and soft that will keep them from licking their wound. I told them I was going to try to get that. They told me that sounded great but that I also might think about getting a "onesie" and that would keep her from being able to lick the wound as well.

Anyway, as far as I know… All is well. For the last week I have been on Petfinder trying to find another puppy. Bella plays with our other dogs from time to time, but she is a daddy‘s girl and loves to just lie in the bed with him and play and sleep and play. Also I have a dog that doesn’t belong to me, it’s my granddaughter‘s mothers dog. She hasn’t been able to come up with the $300 for a pet deposit and so the pup stays here until she can afford that. Then there is April, an almost 3 year old border collie/beagle mix. She’s a doll and loves to run and play outside. And then there’s Jackie Chan, who is coming up on 14 years. I don’t believe she will live very much longer. She has been the best dog ever. So I had a long conversation with Jackie last night. And after spending some one-on-one time with her, I determined that I will wait until she passes before I will get another dog. April deserves to have a dog that is youthful and playful to spend her days with. But Jackie does not deserve to have to "put up with" another new pet in the house. So I will wait.

I know it won’t be anything like Maggie. But April deserves to have a companion.

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 WhatsRight (original poster member #35417) posted at 2:17 AM on Friday, January 26th, 2024

BTW… I was told that when I got Bella spayed, that I should have her dewclaws removed on her back feet. When I got there in the morning to drop her off, the lady said that it was not necessary, unless they were really floppy. So she looked at them and poor Bella has the floppiest dewclaws she has ever seen. She said that I probably would want to have them removed, and that because they were so floppy, they were probably no tendons or ligaments involved and should be very easy to remove.

But they don’t do that procedure because it’s considered not so much a necessity.

Yesterday I read as much as I could online about removing dewclaws. There were opinions all over the place… They definitely need to be removed… OR They never need to be removed unless they are injured. So I’m not sure what to do. The lady at the spay hospital said that usually if it needs to be done, they will do it at a couple of days old… Like when they bob a tail or trim ears. And now Bella is a year old almost.

Do any of you all have any opinions/insights to share about this?

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tushnurse ( member #21101) posted at 1:40 PM on Friday, January 26th, 2024

Glad 8t all went well.
You may want to look on Amazon for a body suit for her to keep her feet away from her incision.
My Dane managed to pull her spay staples out by scratching. It was scary and awful. Emergency surgery to wash out her abdomen and extra antibiotics etc. Since then I have used the body.suits. basically dog onsies. Much more comfortable than the cone or Elizabethian collars.
As far as the dewclaws I have had a dog rip one and it took forever to heal and was a pain. But your little girl is mostly a companion dog and not doing typical Dachsie things like digging after critters in the yard so she is probably really low risk for any issues. I would say in her current life she doesn't need to have them off. Of course my dogs have them off at the 2 day mark but they are running g swimming breaking ice etc lots of opportunities to hurt them.

Me: FBSHim: FWSKids: 23 & 27 Married for 32 years now, was 16 at the time.D-Day Sept 26 2008R'd in about 2 years. Old Vet now.

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BraveSirRobin ( member #69242) posted at 11:48 PM on Friday, January 26th, 2024

A little late to the conversation, but although we never had any problems with our dogs getting spayed, our rabbit had seizures for the rest of her life after spaying. Both my son and I are convinced it had something to do with the anesthesia.

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 WhatsRight (original poster member #35417) posted at 12:53 PM on Saturday, January 27th, 2024

Oh my God. Oh my God. I guess sometimes you should follow your intuition. But I don’t know what I could have done. The emergency vet that night said she would "guess" that it was a brain tumor. But that it was a very bad sign that she had a high fever and none of the anti-seizure meds are helping in the least. Wow… I’m really going to have to be on the lookout for Bella.

I’m so sorry about your little bunny.

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