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Just Found Out :
After being gaslight for months, I find the texts

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trustedg ( member #44465) posted at 7:38 PM on Friday, October 25th, 2024

Your wife sounds like a real piece of work. I suggest seeing an attorney ASAP, just to make sure you, your finances,and the kids are protected.

You might want to keep a recording device on you to document her physical abuse, she may try to claim you are abusive.

Then tell OP, but chances are he has been a repeat offender and she knows.

Hang in there

Me BWHim WH DDay 12/2012Married a long time, in R

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 Jazzparis3726 (original poster new member #85365) posted at 9:10 AM on Saturday, October 26th, 2024

OK, good comments/suggestions.
You're correct about not confronting the AP: he is an arrogant asshole and it would make life hell at the home.
Getting in touch with his wife is a little different: apparently, also an MD, she lives in another state and from what I can see they see each other on just weekends.
I would suspect the relationship is not all that deep between them and so informing her of his tryst might amount to very little. Hell, his flings might be the reason they live apart.
Anybody been in this position, or any thoughts on whether information the AP's spouse under these conditions might be counterproductive?

Francois

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The1stWife ( Guide #58832) posted at 1:30 PM on Saturday, October 26th, 2024

You can inform the AP’s wife but be prepared for backlash from your wife.

You may want to consider telling the other betrayed wife after you have started the D proceedings and are no longer living together.

Your wife sounds crazy and manipulative. I suggest you have a variable activated recording device on you at all times. I fear she may level domestic abuse charged against you to have you arrested.

Be very careful.

Survived two affairs and brink of Divorce. Happily reconciled. 11 years out from Dday. Reconciliation takes two committed people to be successful.

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ThisIsSoLonely ( Guide #64418) posted at 6:52 PM on Monday, October 28th, 2024

I would suspect the relationship is not all that deep between them and so informing her of his tryst might amount to very little. Hell, his flings might be the reason they live apart.

My WH and I lived apart for a long time due to his and my work before I moved to where he lived. It did not mean that our relationship was not that "deep" - it was. My WH's A occurred years after we lived in the same place. My WH and I are now divorced and we live in separate places but we date. If someone reached out to me and told me he was in a relationship with them now I would not be cool with that and while my reaction would be much swifter than last time and our relationship is not as "deep" as it once was, that is information I would want.

But, you do not inform the OBS because you are hoping for some outcome for you (IMO) - you inform them because you feel they deserve to know. If your only purpose for informing is that you hope it will stop their relationship or otherwise help you then I have no advice.

[This message edited by ThisIsSoLonely at 6:54 PM, Monday, October 28th]

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 Jazzparis3726 (original poster new member #85365) posted at 11:11 AM on Sunday, November 3rd, 2024

Just an update for those that care to follow this effed up one.
Found other texts between the two, with my wife telling the AP (an MD she works with) that she wanted to 'rape' him the next day because she had been waiting 'long enough.' He responded by saying Ha ha. I have screen shots of the exchange.
Well, the next day came and went and she mentioned she was going to dinner with one of our friends. All bs, of course.
She came home drunk, jumped into the tub, then crawled into bed without saying a word.
The next day we had dinner together and chatted about some family related issues.
The following morning I decided to check out her texts with the AP and it was complete with such memorable phrases as 'I loved your cock,' to him describing how hard he screwed her. Needless to say my jaw dropped.
I am planning the exit because this is obviously an untenable situation.
But to add comedic relief, the day she was preparing to bang him for the first time, she bought tickets for a theater performance for our anniversary next month and has scheduled formal family pictures this weekend.
Has anyone ever heard of such bizarre behavior?

Francois

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Justsomeguy ( member #65583) posted at 4:36 PM on Sunday, November 3rd, 2024

Your WW sounds like a piece of work. So sorry you are going through this. Hang in there.

I'm an oulier in my positions.

Me:57 STBXWW:55 DD#1: false confession of EA Dec. 2016. False R for a year.DD#2: confessed to year long PA Dec. 2 2017 (was about to be outed)Called it off and filed. Denied having an affair in court papers.

Divorced

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ThisIsSoLonely ( Guide #64418) posted at 4:54 PM on Sunday, November 3rd, 2024

Has anyone ever heard of such bizarre behavior?

Unfortunately, yes. My WH, while in the hospital with me awaiting my ultrasound and MRI scans for an unknown lump in my breast, which turned out to be fine but at the time was a very stressful and worrisome situation, excused himself to use the bathroom and had a quick sexting exchange with AP bringing himself to climax while I waited alone in the lobby. In fact he took so long they called me in so I went in alone, scared and worried, and he joined me about 10 minutes later as I was being prepared for the ultrasound. Sigh. He also did the same sexting thing with her another time and literally minutes later was booking a surprise outing for my birthday.

Unfortunately the behavior you describe, which would seem like your WS has been taken over by some alien force, is commonplace in affair-land. There are stories on here where WS's have been late to the delivery of their own child due to having met up with their AP, have taken advantage of the "opportunity" to be with their AP when their BS was hospitalized due to a car accident, have sent flowers to both their AP and their BS from the same florist at the same time....the examples of insane behavior is somewhat endless. The affair-behavior is almost always something a BS could have never imagined their WS doing and something they themselves cannot understand.

As a BS what you have to accept that this is the person your WS is - someone capable of these things. That is what makes a WS so unsafe and often what WS's don't "get" when indicating they want to R. Most think when caught that they can confess to some "palatable" level of the A, say they are sorry, and then expect the BS to just accept that. I remember one of these types of discussions with my WH and he just didn't understand why I could not "get over it" - I mean after all he told me multiple times that he would not do it again and was sorry/felt horrible for what he had done. I explained my position to him like this:

Imagine you had a personal accountant and they had stolen from you, maybe not even just once, but multiple times. You caught them and they confessed to some, but not all, of their thefts. You then found out about more - that they had lied in their first confession - so they confessed to what you had caught later, and they cried, said they were sorry, and that they would not do it again. Do you just say "okay" and give them access to all your money again carte blanche, based on their word and their word alone? No. You don't. Moreover, you want to understand why they did it, so you can figure out if they can fix their problem even if you want to trust them again. It's not a simple process, and the more times that person steals from you, especially after being caught and confessing, the less you should trust them. You would be crazy to do so immediately. And for some people the accountant would be fired - game over. For others they would want some assurances, monitoring of their work, and an understanding that the reason the theft happened had been addressed.

It sounds to me like you think you are done. I certainly do not blame you (and honestly wish I had been "done" sooner) as getting back to trusting someone who can do these things is tough. Your WS is still in the midst of the A so any discussion of R is impossible - you have nothing to work with. Only if the WS grasps their behavior for what it is, wants to change and works towards changing it, and understands they if they want to R it is their job to win back your trust, which is going to take a long time, can anything potentially work out between the two of you. Continue to look out for yourself, and understand that this "alien" behavior isn't really an alien at all but is part of your WS - until your WS wants to understand how they did such things and want to change you have nothing to work with.

Make yourself Plan A. If your WS wants to be a part of your Plan A your WS is going to have to work for it. Hard.

[This message edited by ThisIsSoLonely at 4:55 PM, Sunday, November 3rd]

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 Jazzparis3726 (original poster new member #85365) posted at 11:08 PM on Sunday, November 3rd, 2024

Thanks, Thisissoloney - Very thoughtful answer: Balanced, sensitive, realistic.
Plan A is still being formulated as there are quite few considerations and arrangements that have to be made.
I'll keep everyone in the loop,
One thing I am feeling is just how low value this woman really is. Your comment about these bizarre actions being really who she is removed a veil of ignorance of sorts from my perspective of her. This was the woman I once thought of very highly. Now, pretty much a piece of jet trash - especially being in her mid 40s and having two little children.
Interestingly, I went to a new non-denominational church today (I'm not a churchy person but this place is fine) and I saw families together, being nice , planning the day, etc. Then I thought of the wife sending texts to this married dude about his cock. LOL.
I guess low class remains low class.
In any case, I'm hitting the gym 3x a week with a PT, growing my companies, dressing better, relearning my second language and seeing each day as a new beginning. I look at her sometimes with pity; sometimes with shame. But never again with warmth and admiration.
Enjoy the evening.

Francois

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Bigger ( Attaché #8354) posted at 8:43 AM on Monday, November 4th, 2024

Would you be willing to elaborate what evidence your PI and attorney say is necessary for the divorce?
It is relatively rare that infidelity has any major impact on divorce. It’s mainly if it can be proven that significant funds have been directed to the affair, then it can impact division of assets. But some lingerie, a dinner or hotel room... doesn’t cut it.
It’s also raises a question about your PI’s abilities if you know she’s going on a date and yet he isn’t capable of getting the relevant data.

"If, therefore, any be unhappy, let him remember that he is unhappy by reason of himself alone." Epictetus

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Newlifeisgreat ( member #71308) posted at 6:31 PM on Monday, November 4th, 2024

Do you have a timeframe of filing and having her served?

My advice is to have her served at work at possible.

Take control of the situation and refuse to give up that control

Good luck
And be strong

Betrayed Spouse. She cheated and I filed immediately upon discovering. She never even suspected that I knew until the moment she was served with reason being Adultery. Divorced: Sept, 2018. VERY happy with new life, 0 regrets

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 Jazzparis3726 (original poster new member #85365) posted at 7:08 PM on Monday, November 11th, 2024

I thought I would give those following this saga a quick update.
Found more texts between the two idiots which have pretty much confirmed everything needed to hang her on adultery. My attorney says it would put the nail in the coffin for some pics of the two together (texts can be doctored so there is a need for support and to subpoena the phone records).
I look at her now as if she is some other person. Not my wife: Just a trashy, low value woman.
I'm feeling very good about myself (lots of sleep, working out daily). New work projects, buying a new vacay property, etc.
Pre nup is solid.
Two issues:
The kids, especially my little boy. I still can't stand the thought of him saying goodbye during the time away. I saw this with my first marriage and it was awful. We do so many things together, every day. I still can't wrap my head around it.
I actually get sad throwing out the odd item that she purchased for me over the years. I'm trying to distance myself from her emotionally and this is part of the process. The big problem is that - honestly - neither of my wives really did anything for me (Xmas gifts were always self-serving or cheap or frankly silly). The feeling is probably due to some inability to compartmentalize or self esteem issues. I find this part very pathetic.
So she continues to see him. Their texts are both gross and almost like something high school students would do. Not middle aged people.
Part of me wants to crush this affair despite the ultimate ending. I've thought about contacting his wife, my wife's boss, etc.
Nothing really seems to be viable since I have no idea of the ultimate impact.
I am - despite some very improved and positive feelings of late - in limbo.
Any reasonable suggestions based on experience would be welcome.

Francois

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Hotdog ( member #58066) posted at 7:26 PM on Monday, November 11th, 2024

Did you start the D process yet?

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