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 SearchingForPeace (original poster new member #82269) posted at 12:59 AM on Monday, October 31st, 2022

Hey beautiful people, I’ve been around this site in the background for awhile now. I’ve been reading a lot of different stories, replies and follow ups. I continue to find myself searching for that "one story" that is truely relatable. So I decided to post my own experience

My wife (35f) and I (37m) have been together for 16 years, married for 11. We have had our struggles like most couples do. We always had kids in the plan but we’re not able to conceive naturally or with medical intervention. We came to peace with this after 3 years of trying, or so I thought. I look back now and realize I had some unattended mental trauma from this. I see now I should have spoke with a therapist to work through my feelings about unable to have children. I believe this is a big factor to our relationship issues that came along later.

We were happy for years and I have always struggled with feelings of failure and carry these thoughts around with me everywhere. My wife worked through the infertility challenges while I don’t believe I did.

Fast forward to more recent times, things seemed okay, but not great. We visited a couple councilor to help us communicate and speak to each other well and validate our issues together. At some point we stopped that after our councilor retired and we searched for a replacement. We decided to see councilors individually and work on our issues that way. My wife has struggled with her self confidence with her body for awhile because I wasn’t always as affectionate as I was previous to the infertility period of our marriage. I tried to see Dr.’s about a solution, but never could move past my inability to take action on my sexual thoughts for her. She is very attractive and I told her that often, but it wasn’t enough. At this time I was struggling with depression and I wasn’t aware. One day she asked if I thought I would ever want her again like I did in the past. "I answered I don’t know." At that time I was really low in my mental state and nothing made me happy or feel good. When I told her my answer that October day, she later told me I broke her heart and started to morn the loss of our marriage.

Leading up to that October day I had been reviewing our phone records and she had been speaking and texting with another guy she claimed, was having similar issues in his marriage. I asked nice for her to stop or we all meet one another and spouses. She declined, she was also spending time with a new female friend she was friends with growing up. Her female friend was taking her to baseball games and going to bars together after games and spending time with this guy in a group. I was unaware of her actions. She was starting to stay out later, dress up more for a co-ed baseball game and coming home really late. But I always trusted her and didn’t want to accuse her of something that wasn’t true. We share locations on our phone and she lied to me that her phone was "hacked" when she intentionally turned off her location. She also was hanging up phone calls with him the minute I came home from work and was talking for 30-60 minutes 3 times a week.

Jumping forward again, I continued to find these calls on our bill. I confronted her and asked her to tell me what is going on. She said "there’s nothing to talk about". I never stopped watching her actions, habits, etc. little did I know they were already having sex at this time. In fact it happened within 2 weeks of her asking if I will ever want her again. Many lies, coverup’s and overlapping times of her having sex with him and I, the truth finally came out. That was not before she asked for us to separate 3 times from October to end of May. I later found out those times she wanted to separate she was also trying to stop the relationship with him, but he kept getting her back. This guy is married with 3 kids and was also cheating on his wife with 2 women at the same time.

The d-day was May 30th, kind of…I had some retracted messages on FB messenger that I didn’t see for 2 weeks into June. I had suspected that she was doing something and her conversations that I thought was with him on our home camera. I reverse phone number searched him and found him online, his wife’s name, etc. these retracted messages were from her (cheaters wife). They were over a two day period, and I couldn’t read them. When I found them I asked who it was and why I couldn’t see the messages and what they said? She said, she contacted the wrong person. I knew this wasn’t true 3 messages to the wrong person? I asked again what the messages said, she said nothing and to forget it. I waited awhile to message back. This time I said I think our spouses know each other. She replied how I knew that, explained and said what did the messages say? She was trying to tell me that she found out her husband was sleeping with my wife. She found pictures/videos of them having sex. She was attempting to tell me but didn’t want to be that person.

Eventually she told me that they were doing more than talking. She told me about the phone pics/videos. She had sent them to herself and informed a mutual friend about her husband sleeping with her friends, friend. That friend informed my wife about the phone pictures and immediately threatened her with legal action to stop them from spreading. My wife turned into a bulldog and got them deleted.

That is the day on May 30th that my wife asked me to divorce, aligned with her getting caught. It was her way of escaping the truth and me finding out about the 6 month affair. I moved to a different bedroom and for 2 weeks was paralyzed trying to figure out what to do. Keep in mind I didn’t know yet for another 2 weeks from the FB retracted messages (June14). Once I found from the cheaters wife I confronted her, she lied and ignored my plea to tell me the truth. She didn’t know that I knew at that time…30 minutes later she came into the other bedroom to tell me everything.

I was a complete mess, couldn’t believe it and didn’t know what to do. I asked for details about things because I knew this was my time to get answers. They kissed twice the first night it started. A week later they were having sex in his car, moved to a friends house that wasn’t home and they used that for awhile, then did a hotel when that friends house wasn’t available. This guy lied to her severely about his marriage troubles to tell her what she wanted to hear to relate to. He’s done it before, multiple times.

All in all, they had sex for 6 months about 40+ times and was also having sex with me at the same time. Her friends never tried to stop her or inform me. She claims she would do it for a little while and we would find our way back to each other. In what world is she living in? She wanted to feel desired and never considered the pain it would cause me.

I’m months past that day and still struggle every day. I’m in therapy, joined a men’s group, interviewed my friends that had their wives cheat. I tried to stay and work things out for about 2 months. But she never acted like she wanted to be married, she actually had his baseball jersey and would wear it to bed when I was staying in the other bedroom. I’ve found everything extremely hurtful and can’t get past the betrayal, lies and destructive behavior.

Current day, almost a year after she started cheating, I’ve filed for divorce and I am moving to live with my brother in a different state. I could stay in my hometown but want a fresh start in a different area. I will be losing a job I really like, my dogs and have to start my life over again. With the support of my brother I now know I will be okay. Things got really dark for me for months following the Dday. I am getting stronger but overall, I have a long way to trust anyone again if I can build the strength to put myself out there down the road.


To close things out I am posting this to get advice and encouraging words from anyone that may have related to my situation.

I am struggling to find similar relation and understanding from others.

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fareast ( Moderator #61555) posted at 1:44 AM on Monday, October 31st, 2022

Very sorry you find yourself here. Read in the healing library and continue to take steps to heal. Get IC if it is available. A year ago in October your WW decided she was done with your M. Instead of doing the honorable thing and filing for D, she decided to have an A. An exit A. This is not unusual. Do not blame yourself. She had legitimate ways to end your M, but instead she took the most hurtful path for you.

Go no contact. Do not engage with her. If you must talk go gray rock. It’s very good that you are moving away and getting a fresh start. Focus on you and your future. Good luck.

Never bother with things in your rearview mirror. Your best days are on the road in front of you.

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BearlyBreathing ( member #55075) posted at 4:58 AM on Monday, October 31st, 2022

The struggle is real. And the roller coaster ride will keep going for a while, but the extremes will settle down.

IC for you will be helpful. And remember that her cheating is 100% on her. ALL marriages have challenges and issues. You were in the same marriage. if she was unhappy, she had dozens of better options- counseling, talking, even separation or divorce. But she CHOSE to cheat. You did not.

Get tested for STDs, take good care of yourself, advocate for yourself in your D (no time to play mr nice guy), go NC with her as soon as you can, and best of luck in you next chapter. You will get through this. It’s gonna hurt, but when you no longer having to see her or deal with her it gets better faster.

Me: BS 57 (49 on d-day)Him: *who cares ;-) *. D-Day 8/15/2016 LTA. Kinda liking my new life :-)

**horrible typist, lots of edits to correct. :-/ **

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justanotherperson ( member #82218) posted at 6:09 AM on Monday, October 31st, 2022

You are doing great. You do have some clarity already for your own path from now on and are going strong. Do keep an hold on your brother for the long run. Tremendously important.

Your wife could not handle the issues on the marriage because the love was gone. If not, she would have worked things out/would have tried to settle into other propositons as to verify what you two could do going forward. Hard to accept but the reality.

It is not on you. It his on her. You did love her. And you did want to go forward with the relationship. But she didn't. For this to work out both have to love one another. She lost that love and unfortunatly showed the lack of bonderies/character his personality already had but hidden - by doing what she did to you. You did nothing wrong.

This aspect is part of life unfortunately. We think we have the perfect relationship with the perfect partner and one day... Puff, all gone. That is life. And it goes on.

Stay strong. Always. Take care of yourself and don't be afraid to love again. It is part of life. We loose some. We gain some. Live in the moment and always enjoy yourself and your own company to the max. Breath in the small details, the simplest of the things and enjoy them while they last. That is really all anyone can do in this life. Nothing lasts forever. Not even pain and suffering. There is someone out there who will love you the way you love back. Guaranted.

Heads up and head forward.

"It can't rain all the time."

[This message edited by justanotherperson at 9:24 PM, Monday, October 31st]

"It can't rain all the time."

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ChamomileTea ( Moderator #53574) posted at 4:35 PM on Monday, October 31st, 2022

I have always struggled with feelings of failure and carry these thoughts around with me everywhere

Nothing you did (or didn't do) could have made your STBX throw away her integrity. IME, cheating isn't about circumstances. It's about character. There are many who would have us believe that cheating can happen to anybody if the circumstances are right for it. But when you really think about it, that's just not true. When we really BELIEVE in the values we espouse, boundaries spring up around our core tenets. It's not even that we've been misled all along. Most people don't spend a whole lot of time thinking about where their real boundaries are. I'd guess that the majority of cheaters mistakenly believe the promises they make to others are the truth, but then when circumstances do test those boundaries, it turns out they weren't there.

This wasn't your fault. You could have been Atilla the Hun in that marriage and she would still have either cheated or not cheated in accordance with her character. It's very healing to let other people carry their own baggage. Try to challenge any internalization you're making with the truth.

BW: 2004(online EAs), 2014 (multiple PAs); Married 40 years; in R with fWH for 10

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LIYA13 ( member #62026) posted at 8:02 PM on Monday, October 31st, 2022

My husband and I also had infertility issues. We could not conceive naturally and with intervention for nearly a decade. I believe that he thought the main reason for infertility was his issue. Although the doctors never pointed fingers I think we both had underlying health issues which played a huge part in unable to have children. We both felt pressure from family and others to have children and we were not getting any younger. I think these contributing factors made both of us fall into depression. I think me more than him for sure. WH decided to seek satisfaction and validation outside of marriage and also had a 6 month A with coworker. I on the other hand dealt with my depression with the help of my sisters and friends. I was completely blind sided by the A. We were together since our 20s and we were so in love or so I thought. I never imagined this kind of betrayal. It is the worst kind.

I dont blame inferility issues as the main cause of his infidelity but I do believe it played a vital role in causing depression from both sides. However it is a choice he made and although we have worked it (been over 5 years and 2 children later) things between us are not the same. Ive changed as a person. Im very reserved and i dont trust people so easily. A betrayal is still betrayal. I only have a small circle of people I love and care for. I do love him but its no longer the blind love and trust I had before.

I do wish you find peace in your life. It is difficult to trust again. Be kind to yourself.

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SnowToArmPits ( member #50943) posted at 8:33 PM on Monday, October 31st, 2022

Damn she's a cruel one brother. One bit of good news here, you don't have 3 young kids with her. You could just multiply your woes by 20 if you had kids with her. Another bit of luck on your part, you have a brother you can live with while you're getting back on your feet.

I know you're hurtin, but hey you've done pretty well considering this load of crap has been dumped on you:

- you were able to uncover a lot of her cheating, you have numbers like 6 months and 40+ times... a lot of men never get this

- and they wallow for longer than you in a bad marriage with a cheater.

- you have clarity as to who your wife is, and you've enacted a plan to get her out of your life.

- men's group, counselling, talked to friends who've been cheated on, this is all good... many men don't do this for themselves.

You've been clobbered pretty good by your ex, be kind to yourself. If you have some $ now's the time to spend some of it on you to help you feel better.

I would never talk to your ex again, she can talk to your lawyer about the divorce. If you have to communicate with her, email only. She's poison, get her completely out of your life. She asks you for anything - forward it to your lawyer or don't even reply. That would be a NO. Fuck her.

From where I'm sitting, you're still a young man. You have an opportunity here in your new state to start over and live well. Use it. You've said it can look pretty dark right now, but story after story from men just like you report a few months maybe a year from where you are now they are very happy. New job, new GF, new outlook on life. Once they feel the ex is out of their lives, damn life just starts getting better.

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 SearchingForPeace (original poster new member #82269) posted at 1:40 AM on Wednesday, November 2nd, 2022

Thank you everyone for the great replies. I’ve found great value in everyone’s advice. Some of them are exactly what I thought or felt.

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WontBeFooledAgai ( member #72671) posted at 6:19 AM on Wednesday, November 2nd, 2022

I am so sorry to hear of the circumstances why you are here, SearchingForPeace. Again, this is all on your STBXWW.

However you were not perfect, she was not perfect either, and besides that, there were other remedies for whatever unhappiness she may have been feeling, up to and including making a clean divorce. She instead made a million decisions to lead a double life on you--and then blame you for it. With someone else who is married too, I think I read.

Life will get better for you. And your STBXWW's horrible decision-making will catch up to her. Her Prince Charming just aint. There just isn't many high-quality men who are willing to tie their ships to a cheater besides that.

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pureheartkit ( member #62345) posted at 1:16 AM on Thursday, November 3rd, 2022

Love your name. I'm searching for peace as well.

Thank you everyone for your wisdom and healing.

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MangledHeart ( Webmaster) posted at 4:29 PM on Thursday, January 12th, 2023

Bumped per OP request.

Worry does not empty tomorrow of its sorrow; it empties today of its strength. ~Corrie Ten Boom

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annb ( member #22386) posted at 12:59 AM on Friday, January 13th, 2023

Hi, any update you'd like to share?

Hope your life is moving in a positive direction.

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de.va.sta.ted ( member #22922) posted at 6:48 PM on Friday, January 13th, 2023

SFP,

This stuff is brutal, it just is. The detail of the baseball jersey she wore evokes the kind of pain you, and many of us, have been through. Good for you for moving forward, and you have lots of good years ahead of you.

Sending strength for your journey ahead.

Me: BW Him: WH D-Day 1: February 2009 D-Day 2: April 2018 Divorced!

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 SearchingForPeace (original poster new member #82269) posted at 8:07 PM on Friday, January 13th, 2023

UPDATE: It's been awhile and I think it's time for a quick update...

Since posting this I continue to shift my focus to moving to Orlando for a fresh start. I am anxiously excited to be there and get established as a Florida resident. Professionally this is tough as my fear of opportunities dropping off from my employer has happened. But in the big picture it's not an issue, I continue to look for work with my broker/dealer in Florida for a transfer or help with placement. I am going to take ownership of the home and rent it out while I am living in Orlando...more details on that below.

Personally, I am proud of the progress I have made when I look to the past. Being in a mens group that feels like they are your brothers is so powerful and has helped me dramatically (about 8 men). The experiences that we share and discussion from other men is priceless. I continue to do individual therapy and plan to keep the same therapist as they are willing to get registered in Florida. I am back to bike training 5+ days a week to keep my body moving and boost my mood.

More details have come out about the affair since Dday. She repeatedly tells me that she was in a bad place mentally and that is how she was able to cheat. Part of me believes it as I saw it occurring but didn't seem to me as bad as she describes it. Still, that is no excuse for cheating as frequent as she did. Listening to podcasts and reading healing article is extremely tough about divorce but it does validate how I am feeling. My emotions are wild, inconsistent and intense. This causes a lot of issues with STBXW as we still interact most days.

She has finally realized how lonely she will be divorced and is showing it, but I do not feel bad. She had secured an apartment in the beginning of December but didn't move in due to some repair issues she found. The property manager basically looked at the list and said they weren't going to fix the items and she could get out of the lease. She did decide to do that and wasn't able to find another place yet. So now, she will be renting the home from me at a very high amount. I am likely to put a 3 month maximum rental agreement for her to stay her, as I don't want more reasons to have contact with her.

There is probably more I could talk about but in general it's still extremely hard each day. But I am getting stronger and will distance between us I can only imagine the rapid growth in strength. I plan to meet the AP's wife next Friday to sit down and talk about everything. I am excited for this as I think it will provide me with some closure. I am going to let her lead the conversation entirely as she is still trying to work things out for her family. But by the sounds of it she is really struggling to see herself with him only for their kids.

Lastly, I want to offer anyone to reach out to message me or contact me somehow as a supportive roll. Having support from someone that has a similar experience was the best thing for me. Reading about normal emotions and actions was also huge for me. Cut yourself some slack but don't give up. You WILL get stronger! I know this first hand. This website has proven so valuable to me as well as Reddit threads (be careful to not read every cheating story like I did).

Thank you to everyone that has read this or commented. We are all here to support you!

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lrpprl ( member #80538) posted at 8:45 PM on Friday, January 13th, 2023

You are doing great getting out of infidelity!!!

Hang in there and keep on trucking.

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HarryD ( member #72423) posted at 3:11 PM on Saturday, January 14th, 2023

So sorry for you to have your life destroyed by your WW. I guess the love with the boyfriend didn’t work out, That he was just using her. Now you look better nothing. You don’t need this. You don’t need to be a bed warmer until next BF.
Starting over is a great choice, if you can do it. I wanted to start over. That just never worked out. Best of luck in you new and better life

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ThisIsSoLonely ( Guide #64418) posted at 2:05 PM on Wednesday, January 25th, 2023

Sounds like you have a plan - and that my friend is half the battle - getting the focus on your life moving forward is really key to healing IMO. Glad you are doing so well already - thanks for the update!

You are the only person you are guaranteed to spend the rest of your life with. Act accordingly.

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sven ( new member #80286) posted at 2:42 PM on Thursday, January 26th, 2023

how did the meeting with the other wife go?

how exactly does day to day interaction with your stbxw go, did she ask for reconcilliation?

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 SearchingForPeace (original poster new member #82269) posted at 8:07 PM on Saturday, January 28th, 2023

We never had the meeting to speak to each other. She has stopped communication with me, I feel that maybe she doesn't want to relive the events or is more focused on her marriage.

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Dorothy123 ( member #53116) posted at 5:12 PM on Monday, January 30th, 2023

SearchingforPeace,

I am struggling to find similar relation and understanding from others.

I will share a bit about myself.

Prior to being cheating on I thought that A's are harmless things and something a BS could heal from in a week.

When I got cheated , I shocked at my response to the A. Honestly, I thought I was going crazy

Since you asked if others can relate to you, I will assume that you are really asking is what you are going through is normal.

Here is a link to six pages of BS telling you what physical symptoms they had when they found out about the A.

"What physical symptoms of the A did you have ?"

https://www.survivinginfidelity.com/topics/597986/what-physical-symptoms-of-a-did-you-have/

If you read through all six pages and you will know what you are going through is normal and yes we all can relate.

Hugs to you.

"I’ll get you my pretty, and your little dog too!" Wicked Witch of the West.

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