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New Beginnings :
New beginnings with out a partner ever again?

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twicefooled ( member #42976) posted at 3:47 PM on Monday, April 19th, 2021

I'm 7yrs removed from marriage.

The first 2yrs I rejected any and all male attention (female too lol). Wanted no part of it.

The past 5yrs have been spent dating around, really just having fun and keeping it light.

I spent almost 17yrs married, so I felt that since I am the master of my own destiny that now I am free to have the kind of relationship that I want!

I will not combine children under a household, my ex already brings turmoil into our lives I wasn't going to take a chance on another guy bringing drama into my home.

I will not live with anyone until at least after my kiddos leave (youngest graduates high school in 4yrs).

I met the most amazing guy last summer who has the same "requirements" of a relationship as I do (his ex is a LOT like mine so we understand how addiction colours everyone!)

If we don't work out, I will be sad because he's great but I will never allow another individual to devestate me like my ex did.

My gift to myself is my freedom and I hold that VERY dear.

[This message edited by twicefooled at 9:48 AM, April 19th (Monday)]

May 29 2021 ***reclaimed myself and decided to delete my story with my ex because I'm now 7 years free from him and mentally healthier than I've been in years.

*********When you know better, you can do better*************

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Karmafan ( member #53810) posted at 12:08 AM on Tuesday, April 20th, 2021

As I write this, I am in my bed spread like a starfish (love that Ellie!) feeling content with myself, my home, life in general. I grew up thinking that someone couldn’t be complete without a significant other but truth be told, I felt anything but whole in both my marriage and the LT relationship that followed. I felt....obliterated. Wiped out. Grey. And now?

I sleep wonderfully. I love my job. I love my freedom. I feel in control. My kids are doing great. We travel together and sometimes I travel solo which I wouldn’t have dreamed of doing five years ago. I have rediscovered the pleasure of talking to a friend, without time pressure or guilt. I have created a life for myself and the kids which is beautiful in its simplicity.

I dated at the beginning of the year and I wasn’t ready. I was offered a FWB type thing and I declined. And the really great bit is that I have no regret over any of it. I no longer think, what if this is my last chance?? Because even if it is, I know I’ll be ok. More than ok. Whole.

Me 48 XWH Irrelevant D-day 23 Feb 163 amazing, resilient kids

You are not a drop in the Ocean, you are the entire Ocean in a drop

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skeetermooch ( member #72169) posted at 11:43 PM on Tuesday, April 20th, 2021

While I think a partnered life has clear benefits and can increase happiness, a bad partner is devastating and takes years to recover from. In the past, I've underestimated how good my life was and eagerly got involved when Mr. Wonderful showed up. Later, I felt like I'd let a gremlin into my safe sanctuary and regretted it bitterly.

And, studies show that single women tend to be healthier and happier.

It would take a whole helluva lot for me to let someone in again. I'm vigilantly guarding my peace from here on out.

I don't really do friends with benefits simply because if I liked someone enough to have sex with them, I'd like them enough to get attached. So, I don't see going that route. I'm not over sex, but it's definitely lose some luster.

Me: BS 56 on DDay 1 - 7/2019 DIVORCED - 1/2021

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AngelBetrayed ( member #28579) posted at 5:52 AM on Wednesday, April 21st, 2021

A new beginning without ever having a partner again sounds good to me. I have a great family, fabulous friends and even at my age, so many things I want to do with my life. Living totally on my terms doesn’t sound too bad. I’m retiring soon and anxious to move on with my life. I plan to take some courses, maybe even go back to college, spend more time with my kids and grandkids and take up a few new hobbies. Sounds like a pretty full life to me. I’ve tried OLD in the past and I’m not impressed. I may never meet anyone but I will be out there living my life.

BW: Me 45 ( now 53 )
BH: Him 38. ( no longer relevant )
together 10 years, married 8 on DD
Reconciled for 6 years, Divorced
1 DD: 12
Confessed: February 26, 2010
PA 1.5 years with coworker MOW

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BetrayedGamer ( member #78456) posted at 9:35 AM on Wednesday, April 21st, 2021

There seems to be two directions people go after a serious breakup. One camp goes with the "hate the sex of a partner" route and avoids any relationship, learning to enjoy the benefits of being single. I admit there are great benefits and I've been there before.

The other camp goes into the "obsessed with finding someone new" phase, believing that they can find someone better than the person that betrayed them, thus helping them get passed the last relationship. This CAN be a valid strategy, and I've been there too.

But I think there is a middle ground as well. I hit this after the end of my last serious relationship, prior to meeting the STBXWW. You take the fun and enjoyment of single life, then adds the potential that OLD or other social interaction may bring. You're not doing it out of desperation, instead you make a game out of it. I've sort of achieved this state before and I felt like it was the best of both worlds. I didn't care about OLD rejections. I was a lot more picky about matches, and about flags popping up after 1st and 2nd dates. If I didn't get any good matches for weeks, no big deal I did the single life stuff. I didn't put any deadline on OLD, never put any expectations on it, just did it as one of many "hobbies".

Me BH (51) her STBXWW (47) AP (30)
D-Day 3/14 (3 months before our 7th Anniversary)
Multiple Rs requested but she refused
She moved out May 1, D final on 6/24
No biological kids, 1 stepdaughter

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Unrealized ( member #77151) posted at 11:08 AM on Wednesday, April 21st, 2021

Four months in and I couldn’t think of anything worse then dating. Happy being single, focusing a bit more on work, and raising the kids. Maybe in the future this will change but after this experience it might take a while. I actually quite like the free time when I can get out and do some challenging outdoor stuff that I felt guilty doing before.

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EllieKMAS ( member #68900) posted at 4:39 PM on Wednesday, April 21st, 2021

One camp goes with the "hate the sex of a partner" route and avoids any relationship, learning to enjoy the benefits of being single.

The other camp goes into the "obsessed with finding someone new" phase, believing that they can find someone better than the person that betrayed them, thus helping them get passed the last relationship.

Just my 0.02, but if someone falls into either of these, I don't think that's particularly healthy. Understandable either way to be sure, but not healthy.

I don't think enjoying being single automatically implies that "I hate men", just saying. There are any number of men that I hold in very high regard. And I will not be "that" woman that thinks ALL men are shit just cus my exdouche happens to be a particularly nasty specimen. HE is a shit, MEN are not collectively shits.

For me - yes, I very much enjoy being single after being in such an unhealthy and lopsided relationship for a decade. I am not in any hurry to 'get back out there' because I am very much enjoying my own company and deeply appreciating the joyful simplicity of being by and doing for myself. And also definitely want to take time to work on my shit so if/when I do happen to meet someone or start dating again, I am doing so from a place of peace and strength within and not because I am desperate for a dewd (BTDT have the t-shirt, not interested in revisiting).

"No, it's you mothafucka, here's a list of reasons why." – Iliza Schlesinger

"The love that you lost isn't worth what it cost and in time you'll be glad that it's gone." – Linkin Park

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DevastatedDee ( member #59873) posted at 4:56 PM on Wednesday, April 21st, 2021

Yeah, I agree with you, Ellie (shocking, lol). The best place to be in mentally for a relationship is when you don't feel that it's a requirement for happiness but you also aren't opposed to the very idea. I'm close to that. I say close because when I think of seriously dating, I feel tired. "Ugh, someone else's needs and compromise and stuff", ha ha.

DDay: 06/07/2017
MH - RA on DDay.
Divorced a serial cheater (prostitutes and lord only knows who and what else).

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EllieKMAS ( member #68900) posted at 5:05 PM on Wednesday, April 21st, 2021

I'm close to that. I say close because when I think of seriously dating, I feel tired.

Giiiirl - SAME

"No, it's you mothafucka, here's a list of reasons why." – Iliza Schlesinger

"The love that you lost isn't worth what it cost and in time you'll be glad that it's gone." – Linkin Park

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BetrayedGamer ( member #78456) posted at 5:58 PM on Wednesday, April 21st, 2021

The best place to be in mentally for a relationship is when you don't feel that it's a requirement for happiness but you also aren't opposed to the very idea.

This, IMO, is the healthiest middle ground, at least for me.

Me BH (51) her STBXWW (47) AP (30)
D-Day 3/14 (3 months before our 7th Anniversary)
Multiple Rs requested but she refused
She moved out May 1, D final on 6/24
No biological kids, 1 stepdaughter

posts: 157   ·   registered: Mar. 6th, 2021   ·   location: CO
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crazyblindsided ( member #35215) posted at 8:23 PM on Wednesday, April 21st, 2021

because when I think of seriously dating, I feel tired. "Ugh, someone else's needs and compromise and stuff"

Yes to all of this lol ^^^

fBS/fWS(me):51 Mad-hattered after DD (2008)
XWS:53 Serial Cheater, Diagnosed NPD
DD(21) DS(18)
XWS cheated the entire M spanning 19 years
Discovered D-Days 2006,2008,2012, False R 2014
Divorced 8/8/24

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Karmafan ( member #53810) posted at 11:39 PM on Wednesday, April 21st, 2021

Ugh, someone else's needs and compromise and stuff, ha ha.

Also giving up all your weekends. Chatting every evening, even if you are braindead. Living your life on a spreadsheet. Compromising on what to watch on Netflix. Sharing your precious precious bed. And shaving more than once a month

Errrrrrr, no thank you !!!!!!

Me 48 XWH Irrelevant D-day 23 Feb 163 amazing, resilient kids

You are not a drop in the Ocean, you are the entire Ocean in a drop

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BearlyBreathing ( member #55075) posted at 1:58 AM on Thursday, April 22nd, 2021

You shave once a month??? Hahahaha... although I do realize that pool season is coming, so soon Ill have to be waxed and vaxed...

I’m JUST at the point where I am curious about dating. When you stick your hand in the fire, it takes a while to trust being anywhere near a flame...

Me: BS 57 (49 on d-day)Him: *who cares ;-) *. D-Day 8/15/2016 LTA. Kinda liking my new life :-)

**horrible typist, lots of edits to correct. :-/ **

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 Gottagetthrough (original poster member #27325) posted at 4:36 PM on Thursday, April 22nd, 2021

I just don’t know if there are any good men near me? I am the mother of two sons who I hope will grow up to be good men, my father was an exceptionally good husband (my wh says he was 1 in a million and most men are like him, not my dad) But my wh and other men that he hangs around and is friends with are all scumbags.

I don’t want a man who talks about women and their bodies and is crass.

I want a person who loves me and thinks I’m the world.

I don’t think that exists, at least for me.

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EllieKMAS ( member #68900) posted at 5:18 PM on Thursday, April 22nd, 2021

Gotta honey you aren't even really separated yet. Worrying abut dating is like step number 863 on the list and you are on step 6B right now.

I know how scary and intimidating it feels thinking of the 'finding someone' thing and the 'being alone' thing, I really do. But for now, worry about getting truly done and clear of the stbxwh and figuring out your new normal. Spoil yourself a little and take care of you and your kids. For right now, dating and finding mr right really shouldn't even be on your radar. Just my 0.02.

Sending you hugs - all the D stuff just sucks and it's scary and hard, no matter what. You'll get through it though - I promise you will!

"No, it's you mothafucka, here's a list of reasons why." – Iliza Schlesinger

"The love that you lost isn't worth what it cost and in time you'll be glad that it's gone." – Linkin Park

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BetrayedGamer ( member #78456) posted at 7:42 PM on Thursday, April 22nd, 2021

Going to agree with EllieKMAS. A month ago I was all about going back to dating. I wanted to hit the dating sites hard, replace her, show her I'm better than the way she's treating me.

Now as the reality of the D gets closer, the reality of the STBXWW moving out gets closer, I'm not thinking about dating at all. It's all about setting up a life without her cheating in it, picking up the pieces, rearranging the nest so it feels like my own. Dating again will come when the urge hits me, but now I know that won't be until I feel "settled in" to single life again.

[This message edited by BetrayedGamer at 1:44 PM, April 22nd (Thursday)]

Me BH (51) her STBXWW (47) AP (30)
D-Day 3/14 (3 months before our 7th Anniversary)
Multiple Rs requested but she refused
She moved out May 1, D final on 6/24
No biological kids, 1 stepdaughter

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gmc94 ( member #62810) posted at 9:48 PM on Thursday, April 22nd, 2021

I don’t think that exists, at least for me.

Gotta - I struggle with this sometimes too.

And I'm finding at this particular place in my journey, these thoughts are really about my own self love. It's a work in progress, but I think it's worthwhile... or really plain old necessary.

I can list a thousand ways I'm a crummy potential partner, without batting an eye.

Listing the million ways I'm awesome? Takes some work for me.

I want to change that dynamic, because I may be old and fat and crabby and the lot... but I am ALSO funny, smart, emotionally aware, detail oriented, a pushover for old movies, etc. I can start to see the ways in which I am a "catch" to the right person.

And when I really think about it, I would be miserable trying to pretzel/change myself into someone that the "market" wants. I want someone who wants and loves me for who I am, warts & all. I felt that with my WH and it's been a VERY painful (and recent) path to dissect the ways in which having that and discovering it was a mirage is damaging and need healing. I mean, I REALLY loved the way I felt my WH loved me. But, it's now time to figure out how to love myself, before anything else.

M >25yrs/grown kids
DD1 1994 ONS prostitute
DD2 2018 exGF1 10+yrEA & 10yrPA... + exGF2 EA forever & "made out" 2017
9/18 WH hung himself- died but revived

It's rude to say "I love you" with a mouthful of lies

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id 8653052
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